Casino Royale
Fred and Yasser’s Film Club: The End
The time has come for parting…
… but Fred and Yasser got together one last time to look back at the lists as a whole and how they fared. Did either man make any mistakes in they scores? Did they feel hard done by? And have they learned anything at all from the experience?
Here’s your answers…
You can read the entires from previous week by checking out the archives on the left of the screen.
You can also access the complete lists by clicking here for Fred’s and here for Yasser’s.
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Fred: Did you enjoy ‘Film Club’?
Yasser: I loved it, even when it made me hate you
FS: (laughs) I can guess when that might have been. Did you enjoy it more or less than you thought you would at the outset?
YA: I didn’t think it was going to be as fun as it has been
FS: Me either. I knew I’d enjoy my own choices, but I was worried about yours. It’s been great. It opened my eyes. We discussed in the last two posts how it has made us watch films differently
YA: Yeah, but I think I’m safe. Yesterday I watched the new ‘G.I. Joe‘ movie. I don’t want movies to constantly mentally stimulate me. Sometimes I just wanna watch shit get blown up
FS: My first question about the lists themselves is to ask if there are any on my list that you think you would never have watched if you hadn’t been forced to?
YA: Honestly? (laughs)
FS: Be brutal…
YA: ‘All the President’s Men‘, ‘Bad Day at Black Rock‘, ‘Inherit the Wind‘, ‘Cinema Paradiso‘, ‘Wild Strawberries‘, ‘Topsy-Turvy‘, ‘High Noon‘, ‘Breathless‘ and ‘Crimes and Misdemeanors‘. Would never have watched any of those
FS: A lot of the straight dramas, and all of my foreign choices. Interesting
YA: You?
FS: ‘Fearless‘, ‘The Last Samurai‘ and ‘13 Assassins‘. Maybe the first two of the ‘Lord of the Rings‘ trilogy too. I’d already seen the third one
YA: Anything set in the far east or middle earth then
FS: (laughs) Yep! I’m not a lover of martial arts films. Now, ‘Breathless’, ‘All the President’s Men’ and ‘Cinema Paradiso’ all scored fairly well. Do you think you’d be more inclined to give things a chance in future?
YA: Well, I would say I watch more variety than most people. I dislike westerns and ‘Bollywood’, but I try to give everything a chance
FS: Musicals…?
YA: I like ‘Oliver!‘, and many of the Disney films I grew up watching had lots of songs in them. I used to sing along. I would never watch ‘Mamma Mia‘, though
FS: With your list, I’m not sure I’d go for martial arts movies, but you did help to remind me that I like a good action movie now and again. Things like ‘Batman Begins‘, ‘The Dark Knight‘ and ‘Casino Royale‘
FS: Big question now. We have watched the 25. We have rated. Do you think there were any films on my list that you rated too harshly? And are there any you look at and think ‘that was generous‘?
YA: ‘Crimes and Misdemeanors’ was rated harshly. When I read the review we did I was bigging it up at times, talking about the imagery and irony, but there were some elements that I still didn’t like so it probably would’ve gotten a 6/10
FS: That’s good. Anything else?
YA: ‘High Noon’ was generous. Should’ve been a 5/10. ‘Wild Strawberries’ – I was being nice giving it 4/10
FS: No way! Fucking hell! (laughs)
YA: No lie. (laughs) That should be a 3/10. ‘City Lights‘ – Oh my gosh! If the girl was better that would’ve been a 10/10, but it’s still a 9/10
FS: Bastard
YA: Everything else would be the same.
YA: Your turn!
FS: Okay. ‘Fearless’ got 7/10. I think that was too high. It was a 6/10, mainly because I gave ’13 Assassins’ 6/10, but liked it better. I’d bump ’13 Assassins’ up to a 7/10
YA: Interesting
FS: ‘Meet Joe Black‘…
YA: Emotional connection. Tricky
FS: I think the emotional connection I have with the film meant I was wildly generous. Taken on its own standing, it’s a 4/10. However, I’ll make it a 5/10 because I do like it even though it’s pretty dull
YA: Okay
FS: ‘Amelie‘ would go up to 9/10
YA: I’m glad
FS: ‘Casino Royale’ is an interesting case
YA: Oh?
FS: I almost swayed towards making it a 9/10, but then I saw the superior ‘Skyfall‘ and that cemented the 8/10 in my head
YA: Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! ‘Casino Royale’ is better than ‘Skyfall’
FS: No it’s not. ‘Skyfall had a better villain, the characters were more rounded, and it was just generally more enjoyable
YA: The villain was a rip-off of Ledger’s ‘Joker’. The director said that himself
FS: We could argue about this all day. It’s staying as an 8/10. The rest of your top ten is spot on, except ‘The Dark Knight’
YA: Did you over-mark it?
FS: I didn’t think so when we were discussing it, but looking back I do feel the whole climax with the ferries and the ‘Bat-Sonar’ was well done, but a bit lacklustre. Neither part worked for me so maybe 8/10 was more realistic. It was really good, but the climactic confrontation between Batman and ‘The Joker’ should have been one of the main talking points and we barely mentioned it
YA: The initial plans were to continue ‘The Joker’s’ story in the third film, but with Ledger dying, Nolan couldn’t find it within himself to recast the role
FS: What lesson do we learn from this? Never do anything with eyes on a sequel
YA: Like ‘Back to the Future‘? “FS: touche”
FS: No, not at all
YA: ‘Back to the Future Part II’, man! It sets up ‘Part III’
FS: Yes, but they were filmed back-to-back which is different to making one and thinking ‘in four years time we can make a third‘. If Nolan had filmed ‘The Dark Knight’ and ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ back-to-back and Ledger had died during filming then I would take your point, but it didn’t happen that way
FS: The next question I have is would any of my choices threaten to break into your top 25?
YA: ‘It’s a Wonderful Life‘ could threaten to enter my list, but nothing else. I should have picked a Hitchcock movie but I would have gone for ‘Vertigo‘
FS: ‘Casablanca‘ should have been on mine. I think part of me didn’t choose it as it felt too obvious but that was a mistake. ‘The Godfather‘ is the big one, though. I don’t think it would make it into the top 10 but we would be looking at somewhere from 11-15
YA: I’m glad about that
FS: Maybe I’d have dropped ‘High Noon’ for ‘Casablanca’. I think if I was to include ‘The Godfather’ then ‘Breathless’ would drop out. I’d struggle to relegate any of the others though
YA: I’m curious. ‘Beauty and the Beast‘…
FS: Yes?
YA: … would that now be your top animation?
FS: ‘Spirited Away‘ is the best animated film I’ve ever seen followed by ‘Up‘. After that ‘Beauty and the Beast’ might be number three
YA: ‘Spirited Away’ is awful. Awful, awful. I think you took more films from me, but your list opened my eyes
FS: That brings me on to my last point which is about what the main criticisms of each others list would be. For me, your list was limited in its scope both in terms of when the films were made and what genres they crossed
YA: Huh? My list is awesome
FS: I’m not talking about the quality of the films. I’m saying that your 25 is a narrow representation of cinema as a whole
YA: Oh yeah? (laughs) What am I missing?
FS: If we take ‘Birth of a Nation‘ as the first feature-length movie with a plot, that was made 100 years ago, give or take a year. You had 100 years of films to choose from yet 22 or your 25 were made since 1991. That’s nearly 90% of your list
YA: That’s what I grew up watching. You grew up watching things made from the 1950s-70s
FS: Yes, but your parents stop choosing what films you watch when you are how old? I’m not having a go. I’m just saying that whilst your list demonstrates that modern cinema is alive and thriving, there’s not much from before the 1990s
YA: I think my movie taste only improved, like, 5-7 years ago. That’s when I started watching things like ‘Casablanca’ or ‘Gone With the Wind‘. All I watched before that was things like ‘Con Air‘ or ‘Bad Boys‘
FS: So the majority of the older films you’ve seen just don’t do it for you like modern movies do?
YA: They do but, for both of us, film watching is a labour of love
FS: What about the style of films on your list? There isn’t much to smile about on your list, especially towards the very top
YA: Why don’t you just say it? The majority of my films have violence in them
FS: There is that
YA: Your list has lots of nostalgia in it. ‘Breathless’, ‘Singin’ in the Rain‘, ‘Cinema Paradiso’ and ‘Sunset Boulevard‘ all nod to the old days of Hollywood
FS: That’s true
YA: I like violence in films as it’s an escape but I don’t choose movies because they are violent. In my top 10 we have ancient Rome, superheroes, World War II, the mafia, fantasy, espionage, cops and robbers. I think that’s pretty normal
FS: Do you not agree that the films are all the same kind of movie?
YA: (laughs) No, I really don’t
FS: Gangsters, gladiators, soldiers and spies… There is a lot of fighting – big battles or shootouts
YA: Maybe, but my films are based on my interests. I’m very defensive here because I know what people think
FS: What about my list? What would you say about it?
YA: Some are thought-provoking and the majority have of the films have messages behind them. ‘Crimes and Misdemeanors’ and ‘Wild Strawberries’ in particular are movies where the writers and directors are telling the audience a life lesson they should learn and it felt very pretentious
FS: Interesting
YA: Your comedies were the highlight
FS: I was particularly pleased that my three 1930s comedies scored 27/30 all together
YA: Somehow, I dunno why, I don’t think comedies are as worthy to be in my high estimations as more serious movies
FS: That shows. It’s an attitude I have never, and will never, understand
Thanks to all our ‘Film Club’ followers.
Fred and Yasser’s Film Club: Week Sixteen, Part One: ‘Casino Royale’ (2006)
The Premise
Film fanatics and friends Fred Sullivan and Yasser Akram are on a mission 
to watch 25 of one another’s favourite movies. Each week they will watch one movie each and then get together to discuss what they have seen. Only three of the thirty movies featured so far have been given the maximum ’10/10′ by the viewer, so both men will be hoping to add one or two more as the weeks go by
This week, we arrive at the first of Fred and Yasser’s ten favourite films. Yasser, as always, chooses first and he’s gone for a modern take on an icon of world cinema.
You can read the entries from previous week by checking out the archives on the left of the screen.
To have a look at what Fred has picked so far, click here.
Likewise, for Yasser’s choices, click here.
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Fred: We are in the ‘Top 10s’ now, Yasser, and you number 10 is Daniel Craig‘s first outing as 007, ‘Casino Royale‘
Yasser: Indeed it is
FS: It’s quite an odd choice in some ways as it’s both a reboot AND a continuation of the long-running series. Why does this get in ahead of other Bond movies?
YA: It’s well written, classy. It captures the best and worst of Bond as a character, and let’s go of all the gimmicks
FS: It does. No Q, no invisible cars, no naked ladies in the titles. ‘Casino Royale’ does have loads of in-jokes, though. Doesn’t that undermine the supposed ‘reboot’?
YA: I don’t thinks so. Little things that were put in ‘Casino Royale’ that tipped their hat to the previous films in the series were there to help the new effort have continuity
FS: I guess they had to throw Bond fans a bone, and most of them were pretty well done
‘Casino Royale’
2006 – UK/USA/Czech Republic/Germany
Director: Martin Campbell
Starring: Daniel Craig, Eva Green, Mads Mikkelsen, Judi Dench, Jeffrey Wright
FS: Were you a fan of the 1962-2002 movies?
YA: Yes, very much so. I loved the early Brosnan films. Timothy Dalton, I feel, was very underrated
FS: I agree. ‘License to Kill‘ is one of my favourites
YA: I think he did a very good job and had many of the attributes one would expect Bond to have. Connery is my favourite old Bond, though
FS: Isn’t he everyone’s? I guess I want to know where Craig ranks
YA: I think before Craig, ‘On Her Majesty’s Secret Service‘ was probably the best character-focused Bond film as it delved more into who Bond is and his feelings
FS: If you like character study then you really need to read the books
YA: With all the time I contribute to ‘Film Club’, I don’t have time for books
FS: (shakes head)
YA: It’s probably too soon to judge if Craig is the best Bond. I liked his performance in ‘Quantum of Solace‘, but the film let him down
FS: Oh God! Awful. So boring.
YA: How did you find ‘Casino Royale’?
FS: I’m a big fan of James Bond and I was really looking forward to ‘Casino Royale’ as I’d seen Daniel Craig in a few things and I knew he was a very good actor
YA: The blond hair and piercing blue eyes didn’t put you off?
FS: Roger Moore was blond with blue eyes, so no. The only problem with Daniel Craig is that he’s so fucking miserable in interviews. He seemed like he wasn’t all that happy to be playing Bond, like he didn’t even like the movies. I thought that was odd
YA: I think he went into it with a serious frame of mind
FS: I can’t fault his performance in this, though. He was really very good indeed, even if he does run like a berk
YA: Okay. What did you like about his Bond in ‘Casino Royale’
FS: He’s reckless, he can kill a man without thinking twice about it, and he’s resourceful. Personality-wise, he is a bit serious, but I’m not sure Craig is good at comedy so I can see why they limited the wise cracks. He reminds me very much of Steve McQueen, who was also shit at comedy
YA: That’s a wonderful comparison. There is an element of humour in Craig’s performance, but it’s more dry and sarcastic than others before him
FS: I really liked the opening. It showed Bond’s utter brutality, but also that he was not an experienced killer. He really makes a meal of killing the guy in the bathroom
YA: Yeah, it wasn’t very professional. It was just a desperate fight
FS: After the titles, we have the set up of the villain, Le Chiffre (Mads Mikkelsen), before a quite breathtaking free-running sequence in Madagascar. Aside from some quite obvious stunt-doubling for Craig, that sequence blew me away when I saw it in the cinema. I’d have stood and applauded if such things weren’t frowned upon
YA: (laughs) We then cut to Bond and M (Judi Dench) and she is not impressed
FS: And, again, it’s a fantastic little exchange. Two very talented actors together. By the time he’s at the Ocean Club in the Bahamas I’m wondering to myself if this could be the best Bond movie I’ve ever seen
YA: Good, good….
FS: There is then a set-piece set in Miami airport and it’s one of the most exciting action scenes I can remember
YA: The runway chase?
FS: Yes. To cut a long story short, an hour has gone by and I haven’t taken my eyes from the screen. Craig is brilliant, the stunt work is superb and I’m really enjoying how they have expanded the story from the book. If the standard of the first hour had been replicated in the second hour, this would have got 10/10 very easily
YA: … However?
FS: What happens after an hour?
YA: Eva Green (laughs). Knew it
FS: I don’t know what it was but she dragged the whole film down. Craig lost it, and it all started in that train sequence
YA: What the fuck, man? That is one of my favourite scenes in my list
FS: Daniel Craig looked so uncomfortable delivering that sort of dialogue. It was very strained, very unnatural and it was embarrassing to watch. I was wincing
YA: Fred!!! It was a good exchange of underhand quips
FS: It’s not. It’s awful. They have zero chemistry for a start, and the lines are terrible. Not funny or sexy
YA: Ah mate! You are killing me here
FS: I’m not having a go at Craig, but he’s just not cut out for comedy. He has no 
timing. And Eva Green is no better. I can’t believe this is one of your favourite scenes. Considering the rest of the film, I’m astonished
YA: I’ve seen it dozens of times. Never once have I not smiled of enjoyed it. I’m flabbergasted at your disgust
FS: What’s funny is I’ve just told you that the first hour was incredible, yet we’ve spent most of out time talking about five minutes I thought were shit
YA: (laughs)
FS: And now we get to the bit you were scared of… THE BOOK!
YA: This is ‘Film Club’, not ‘Book Club’
FS: (laughs) The card game makes up the vast majority of the book
YA: And a large chunk of the film too
FS: There are three problems with the card game sequences as they appear in the film. Firstly, watching people play cards is quite boring. Second – they had to jazz up this part of the film with action scenes, and they were very good, but they used ‘Bond has a crisis, but returns to the table looking absolutely fine’ too much. How many tuxes did he have? Eight?
YA: Were these major gripes?
FS: No, but the third one was. Because film makers treat audiences with utter contempt, they felt the need to have Mathis (Giancarlo Giannini) explain the rules of Poker every five seconds. Very stilted
FS: Shall we talk about some good stuff before you start doing the ‘Hans Zimmer rock‘ in your chair?
YA: (laughs) Twat! What were your thoughts on the famous torture scene?
FS: It’s really well done, and it’s brutal, but it’s lifted straight from the book. It’s a good scene, but I can’t credit the director more than that. Everyone’s done a good job, but the material was there for them
YA: This is why I asked you not to compare it to the book
FS: It’s a very good film based on a very good book. There is no problem
YA: What about the end section in Italy?
FS: Bond is quite naive, but that, again, is faithful to the flawed Bond of the novels. The last action sequence in Venice is good, just not as good as what went before it
YA: Was there anything you liked about Eva Green’s performance?
FS: Seriously, she was okay. I quite like her, but it’s unfortunate that the first time we meet Vesper (Green) is after an hour when the film take a slight downturn in quality. That first scene she’s in on the train, as discussed, doesn’t work so it takes 
her quite while to make any impact
YA: And what about the villain, Mads Mikkelsen?
FS: He was quite understated for a Bond villain, which I liked. He was wealthy but he didn’t have an underground lair or anything. His plans were more modest and realistic than world domination… I mean realistic in Bond terms
YA: I think that’s a welcome change. It was good for the new ‘double-0’ to have a more modest villain as he finds his feet
YA: I think Martin Campbell‘s direction was very well done
FS: There was a danger that having this ‘reboot’ directed by someone who had been involved in the old series could have negated all the changes they wanted to make but it turned out to be a masterstroke. The direction was first class. There are sequences where you’re sitting there, bolt upright, teeth clamped together and eyes wide open. For what the movie was, the direction is perfect
YA: Finally, Dave Arnold’s score. If you watch it again, you might notice that any time Craig does something we know James Bond for – putting on a tux for the first time for instance – the music bubbles slightly with a little touch of the James Bond theme, but he saves the whole theme for the end of the film when Craig uses his catchphrase for the first time
FS: It’s like the last piece of the jigsaw. He’s officially 007 now, so play the music
YA: Exactly. Well I guess I’d like to hear your final thoughts
FS: I really, really enjoyed this choice. The first hour is absolutely thrilling and has you on the edge of your seat more than once. Daniel Craig is someone I like as an actor and he hits the ground running as the new breed of Bond, one that is faithful to Ian Fleming’s novels but that also brings 007 into the 21st Century where Jason Bourne is king. Unfortunately, the first hour is so good that the second half struggled to live up to it. The majority of the second hour is spent around a card table, which is fine, but it’s shown up compared to the beginning. Eva Green is fine. She’s not a great actress, but she grew into the role. The lack of chemistry between her and Craig is the film’s biggest drawback, though. Mikkelsen makes a good, if atypically quiet and error prone villain. I liked this understated style. If the standard of the first hour had been kept up all the way through, this would have been a ’10’, but because of the problems around Green and Craig, and the uneven pace of the film which sees the best scene appear in the first ten minutes – a problem that seriously undermines the comparatively dull climax – it gets 8/10
YA: Oooh! Thank you, Mr Bond
FS: (laughs)
YA: So, what is your favourite Bond movie?
FS: ‘The Spy Who Loved Me‘… which is also Alan Partridge’s
Later this week: Pray silence for the legendary Charlie Chaplin
Fred and Yasser’s Film Club: Yasser’s 25
The films that Yasser has chosen for Fred will be updated week-by-week on this page. Click on the film’s title to read the blog post.
Yasser’s List for Fred
1. The Dark Knight (2008)
Director: Christopher Nolan
Starring: Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Aaron Eckhart, Gary Oldman, Michael Caine
Fred’s Rating: 9/10
2. Gladiator (2000)
Director: Ridley Scott
Starring: Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Neilsen, Oliver Reed, Derek Jacobi
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
3. The Departed (2006)
Director: Martin Scorsese
Starring: Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Jack Nicholson, Mark Wahlberg, Martin Sheen
Fred’s Rating: 9/10
4. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
Director: Steven Spielberg
Starring: Tom Hanks, Tom Sizemore, Ed Burns, Barry Pepper, Matt Damon
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
5. The Godfather (1972)
Director: Francis Ford Coppola
Starring: Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, James Caan, Diane Keaton, Robert Duvall
Fred’s Rating: 10/10
6. Pulp Fiction (1994)
Director: Quentin Tarantino
Starring: Uma Thurman, John Travolta, Samuel L. Jackson, Bruce Willis, Tim Roth
Fred’s Rating: 9/10
7. Heat (1995)
Director: Michael Mann
Starring: Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Val Kilmer, Tom Sizemore, Ashley Judd
Fred’s Rating: 7/10
8. Batman Begins (2005)
Director: Christopher Nolan
Starring: Christian Bale, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman, Michael Caine, Katie Holmes
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
9. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy: Extended Edition (2001-2003)
Director: Peter Jackson
Starring: Viggo Mortensen, Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Orlando Bloom, Sean Astin
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
10. Casino Royale (2006)
Director: Martin Campbell
Starring: Daniel Craig, Eva Green, Mads Mikkelsen, Judi Dench, Jeffrey Wright
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
11. The Last Samurai (2003)
Director: Edward Zwick
Starring: Tom Cruise, Ken Watanabe, Tony Goldwyn, Billy Connolly, Timothy Spall
Fred’s Rating: 4/10
12. Schindler’s List (1993)
Director: Steven Spielberg
Starring: Liam Neeson, Ralph Fiennes, Ben Kingsley, Embeth Davidtz, Ezra Dagan
Fred’s Rating: 9/10
13. Kingdom of Heaven: The Director’s Cut (2005)
Director: Ridley Scott
Starring: Orlando Bloom, Eva Green, Marton Csokas, Jeremy Irons, Edward Norton
Fred’s Rating: 3/10
14. 13 Assassins (Jusan-nin no shikaku) (2010)
Director: Takashi Miike
Starring: Koji Yakusho, Masachika Ichimura, Goro Inagaki, Takayuki Yamada, Yusuke Iseya
Fred’s Rating: 6/10
15. Amelie (Le Fabuleux Destin d’Amelie Poulain) (2001)
Director: Jean-Pierre Jeunet
Starring: Audrey Tautou, Mathieu Kassovitz, Serge Merlin, Rufus, Jamel Debbouze
Fred’s Rating: 8/10
16. Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Directors: Gary Trousdale, Kirk Wise
Starring (Voices only): Paige O’Hara, Robby Benson, Richard White, Jerry Orbach, David Ogden Stiers
Fred’s Rating: 10/10
17. Four Lions (2010)
Director: Chris Morris
Starring: Riz Ahmed, Kayvan Novak, Nigel Lindsay, Adeel Akhtar, Arsher Ali
Fred’s Rating: 7/10
18. The Pianist (2002)
Director: Roman Polanski
Starring: Adrien Brody, Frank Finlay, Thomas Kretschmann, Ed Stoppard, Emilia Fox
Fred’s Rating: 7/10
19. Meet Joe Black (1998)
Director: Martin Brest
Starring: Anthony Hopkins, Brad Pitt, Claire Forlani, Jake Weber, Marcia Gay Harden
Fred’s Rating: 7/10
20. The Ten Commandments (1956)
Director: Cecil B. DeMille
Starring: Charlton Heston, Yul Brynner, Anne Baxter, Edward G. Robinson, Yvonne DeCarlo
Fred’s Rating: 6/10
21. East is East (1999)
Director: Damien O’Donnell
Starring: Om Puri, Linda Bassett, Jimi Mistry, Archie Panjabi, Jordan Routledge
Fred’s Rating: 5/10
22. War Horse (2011)
Director: Steven Spielberg
Starring: Jeremy Irvine, Niels Arestrup, Tom Hiddleston, Peter Mullan, Emily Watson
Fred’s Rating: 6/10
23. Casablanca (1942)
Director: Michael Curtiz
Starring: Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Claude Rains, Paul Henreid, Sydney Greenstreet
Fred’s Rating: 10/10
24. Borat: Cultural Learinings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006)
Director: Larry Charles
Starring: Sacha Baron Cohen, Ken Davitian, Pamela Anderson, Luenell, Mitchell Falk
Fred’s Rating: 5/10
25. Fearless (Huo Yuan Jia) (2006)
Director: Ronny Yu.
Starring: Jet Li, Shido Nakamura, Yong Dong, Betty Sun, Collin Chou.
Fred’s rating: 7/10
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